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17 year old male CC: Chest pain and palpitations

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Here's a great case submitted by a faithful reader who wishes to remain anonymous.  Some details have been changed to ensure patient confidentiality.

You are called to the local ER to transfer a 17 year old male to a large metro hospital for evaluation. Your patient  presented to the local ER with chest pain and palpitations following mild exertion. He was alert and oriented, and other than his elevated heart rate, his vitals were within normal limits.  Upon presentation to the ER:

  • O:   Discomfort began during exertion
  • P:   Exertion makes it worse
  • Q:   Dull pain, substernal
  • R:   non-radiating
  • S:   3/10
  • T:   about 20 minutes prior to ER arrival

 

  • S:   Chest pain/palpitations
  • A:   NKDA
  • M:   N/A
  • P:   No previous medical hx
  • L:   Unknown
  • E:   Mild exercise

As far as vitals go, all i can tell you is that they were within "normal limits" with the exception of heart rate. The patient is given trials of adenosine, lidocaine, digoxin, and cardizem, without successful conversion. In fact staff noted that the rhythm seemed to "speed up a bit" after the adenosine. He is put on an Amiodarone drip, which slows the rhythm a bit.  They then elected to cardiovert, and after three attempts he converted to a sinus rhythm.  Here is one of the rhythm strips and a 12 lead they acquired:

At the time you make contact, the patient has no complaints and is still in sinus rhythm. You apply your cardiac monitor and acquire your own rhythm strip and 12 lead:

 

Your trip to the metro hospital is uneventful, and he remained stable in your care.

 

What do you think is going on with this patient?

What is your interpretation of the ECGs?

Is there anything further you want to do for this patient?

 

 

64 year old female CC: Trouble Breathing – Conclusion

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Lots of great comments and it was good to see the depth of discussion on the appropriate treatment and transport for this patient!

This is the conclusion to 64 year old female CC: Trouble Breathing.

When we left off our crew was attending to an elderly female patient in respiratory extremis. Pulmonary edema was present and their initial 12-Lead was concerning.

Many readers correctly noted the normal sinus rhythm, a 1° AV Block, and a wide QRS. Other readers pointed out the apparent Left Bundle Branch Block due to a negative QS complex in V1. Only a few readers picked up on the abnormal presentation of the LBBB: lead I has an rS complex and there is right axis deviation! Right axis deviation is a very uncommon finding in LBBB [1].

Just as it is important to know what a normal 12-Lead looks like, we also need to know what our abnormal 12-Leads should normally look like. In the case of LBBB, we expect V1 to be negative and leads I/V6 to have broad, monomorphic R-waves.

We also expect the T-waves to be discordant with the dominant deflection of the QRS. A picture is worth a thousand words in this case:

In our case we have three troubling findings:

  1. An rS complex in Lead I with Right Axis Deviation, which is very uncommon in LBBB.
  2. Concordant ST-segments in leads V5 and V6.
  3. Excessive ST-segement elevation in leads V2 through V4.

Many readers stated that a Left Bundle Branch Block is a STEMI mimic and precludes an activation of a STEMI alert until an old 12-Lead is used in comparison. However, criteria exists to diagnose a STEMI in the face of a LBBB or Paced rhythm.

Additionally, this patient's 12-Lead does not show a normal LBBB, but rather a non-specific intraventricular conduction defect or IVCD. Dr. Garcia would encourage, "considering the company it keeps," [2] which includes acute myocardial infarction!

Sgarbossa's criteria (and its modifications) for diagnosing STEMI in the face of LBBB or a Paced Rhythm has been covered in depth before so we'll only cover the positive criteria found on our 12-Lead:

  1. Is there ST-segment elevation ≥1 mm that is concordant with the QRS complex? Yes.

  2. Is there ST-segment depression ≥1 mm in leads V1, V2, or V3? No.
     
  3. Is there ST-segment elevation ≥5 mm, or ≥20% the depth of the S-wave, that is discordant with the QRS complex? Yes.

With 2 of the 3 criteria met (only 1 is required), we can be very confident that we're looking at a STEMI. Additionally, any concordant ST-elevation present should always suggest a STEMI.

The paramedic in this case recognized the concordant ST-elevation and the abnormal LBBB, called in a STEMI alert, and transported the patient to the PCI capable center. The patient improved significantly on the non-rebreather and CPAP was not necessary. Prior to arrival a second 12-Lead ECG was acquired:

Enroute the patient proved to be difficult for IV access, and received external jugular access in the ED. Labs were drawn while they waited for the cath lab team to arrive.

In the cath lab a 100% occlusion of the LAD was found and corrected with stenting.

For QA purposes an old ECG was retrieved after the call to compare to the field ECG:

Given this prior ECG, the new LBBB alone would likely cause a STEMI activation. However, in the absence of our more definitive changes this is a very weak criteria for activation [3].

Even without the prior ECG, we have an abnormal LBBB (most likely IVCD due to a peri-infarction block) with concordant ST-elevation and a patient presenting with signs of actue left sided heart failure: all of which point to an acute myocardial infarction!

This case highlights the importance of knowing what abnormal should normally look like and understanding that not every patient fits the protocol. We hope you enjoyed this case as much as we did, so be sure to continue the discussion below.

  1. Childers R, et al. Left bundle branch block and right axis deviation: a report of 36 cases. J Electrocardiol, 2000; 33 Suppl:93-102. [PubMed]
  2. The Art of Interpretation Series. http://www.12leadecg.com/
  3. Jain S, et al. Utility of left bundle branch block as a diagnostic criterion for acute myocardial infarction. Am J Cardiol, 2011; 107(8):1111-6. [PubMed]

64 year old female CC: Trouble Breathing

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Thanks go to Michael Herbert for this great case! As always, some details have been changed to protect patient privacy.

It's late into your shift when the tones go off for breathing problems at a local extended care facility. Enroute you're advised it is a 64 year old female with a "low O2 sat," and to, "use the main entrance."

As you arrive a staff member is waiting for you at the door and directs you to a familiar room. The patient, a larger woman well known to your unit, is noticably anxious and struggling to breathe even on a nasal cannula.

The staff informs you she's not been feeling well all day, and only recently developed shortness of breath. Your partner places the patient on a non-rebreather at 15 L/min and grabs a quick set of vitals.

A quick look at the patient reveales pale skin, circumoral cyanosis, pink frothy sputum, and a respiratory rate in excess of 30. She has a long cardiac history, and is often transported by your service. Your partner relays her vitals:

  • Pulse: 120 bpm, weak radials
  • B/P: 110/74
  • SaO2: 78% on 2 L/min via NC
  • Resps: 36, shallow
  • BGL: 224 mg/dL

Auscultation of her lungs reveals rales in all fields.

Your partner asks if you'd like to put her on the monitor and you reply, "let's get moving and get it in the truck."

Once in the back of the truck you begin attaching the monitor, while your partner prepares CPAP. Her oxygen saturations have improved to 89% and her pulse and respirations have decreased noticably on the non-rebreather.

The rhythm strip is obscured due to patient movement, however, the 12-Lead prints out without issue.

You're 20 minutes from a PCI capable center and 5 minutes from a community hospital where the patient's physician often has her transported.

What does this 12-Lead ECG show?

What interventions does this patient need?

Do you need anymore information to make the appropriate treatment and transport decision?

Why we need health care reform

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I went to the emergency department with a kidney stone yesterday.

Here's the estimate I was provided at discharge.

  • ER Level 4: $4,631.94 
  • Insurance contractual discount: -$4,154.03
  • Adjusted estimated charges: $477.91
  • Estimated insurance responsibility: -$257.33
  • Patient co-pay: $125.00
  • Patient applied co-insurance: $95.58
  • Estimated patient responsibility: $220.58

So, I paid $220.58 on my way out the door (on a credit card). I imagine I'll also be receiving bills from the ED physician and radiologist.

What really amazes me about this estimate is the fact that $4,154.03 (almost 90% of the bill) was written off because of the contract between the hospital and Blue Cross.

Keep in mind that doesn't mean Blue Cross paid this amount. It just goes into oblivion. But it was a made-up number in the first place. No reasonable person believes that $4,631.94 is an appropriate amount of money for a visit to the emergency department.

Now imagine that I didn't have insurance. What would my bill have been? $4,631.94.

So, all you folks out there that buy into the propaganda that we don't need health care reform, be glad you have insurance. The system is stacked against the most vulnerable.

Behind the scenes video from the Code STEMI web series

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Some excellent behind the scenes video has been posted at the Code STEMI web series.

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Mayme Lou Roettig RN, MSN and Chris Granger, MD from Duke University (RACE program North Carolina) explain how first responders are a critical part of the early management of acute STEMI. “Things are shifting more and more into paramedics playing the key role in providing the initiation of these time-dependent processes for improving care.”

Click HERE.

Michael Hibbard, M.D. talks about the importance of technology in maximizing the benefit of the prehospital 12-lead ECG. Many patients have baseline abnormalities such as bundle branch blocks, conduction defects, or persistent ST-elevation from previous heart attacks. “It’s a lot easier to determine going from normal to abnormal than to determine abnormal to more abnormal.”

Click HERE.

Jodi Doering, R.N. from Mission: Lifeline South Dakota shares what it's like helping build regional systems of care in a rural state. "This is such a once in a lifetime opportunity which is why I'm in this role. I live in a rural environment. I live 40 miles from the nearest Critical Access Hospital and about 120 miles from the nearest PCI facility. This is me. This is my family. We need to have not only plan A but plan B and plan C in South Dakota."

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STEMI survivor Forrest “Mick” Stanton encourages a neighbor to get his chest discomfort checked out and saves his life. "They were calling for the air ambulance and took him to the heart hospital in Sioux Falls. He got home 2-3 days ago. A triple bypass he had. His main artery — his widow maker artery — was so closed up they said there was probably no more than a hair's width — the width of a hair — left in that." 

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Arthur Reba, M.D. F.A.C.C. talks about the problem of patient delay in seeking treatment for acute myocardial infarction and the importance of considering total ischemic time. "We know why people delay but how do we get this message out? Public education campaigns have not been very effective…We need a very innovative way." 

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Lt. Stuart Debrowsky and Lt. Steve Worden talk about Dearborn Fire Department, what it's like to walk in your father's footsteps, and their commitment to being good at both EMS and fire suppression. "Nobody here got hired saying, 'You're a great paramedic don't worry about that fire stuff' or 'you're big enough to carry the truck around the block don't worry about that medical stuff'. From day one when you put that patch on your shoulder you're expected to have a high standard in both fields." 

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National Director for AHA Mission: Lifeline Chris Bjerke, R.N., B.S.N. talks about the American Heart Association and evidence-based care for acute STEMI. "Not all patients can go directly for primary PCI to open up that blood vessel which is what they really need. So for those patients that are located where they can't get to primary PCI within that recommended timeframe — which just went from 90 minutes to 120 minutes — what we want our facilities to do is look at those patients and determine if they would be eligible to receive fibrinolytics." 

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Interventional cardiologist Tim Henry talks about the state-wide STEMI system in Minnesota. "What we've shown with this program is by having a standardized protocols and individualized transfer plans for that community and that hospital, you can effectively transfer patients up to distances of 210 miles away with outcomes that are identical for those patients who present to that PCI hospital itself."

 

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The politics of transporting a patient in a fire engine

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The EMS blogosphere, Facebook fan pages, and internet forums are buzzing with discussion (and criticism) of the firefighters who transported a pediatric asthma patient in a fire engine rather than wait for the ambulance.

Apparently a 5 year old girl named Christina Luckett was having a severe asthma attack to the point where volunteer firefighters (at least one of whom was paramedic trained) started chest compressions and mechanical ventilations. I wasn't there but I have my doubts as to whether or not the patient was truly pulseless but that's besides the point.

The ETA of the transport ambulance was reported to be 5-minutes. The hospital was 2.8 miles away down a highway. Rather than wait for the ambulance to arrive, they placed the child in the back of a fire engine and transported the patient to the hospital, continuing care en route.

She lived. 

Fantastic, right? Well, not exactly. Plenty of folks are second-guessing the actions of these firefighters. Scott Kier called it 100% absolutely wrong. None other than Thom Dick commented on JEMS Connect: "Really, 5 minutes? I congratulate the crew and the Good Lord for their outcome. But I generally wish first responders would just do their own jobs well. This makes me think of the prospect of a transport medic fiddling with a pump panel, over an engineer's shoulder. There's no ME in TEAM."

That seems a bit harsh to me. I considered the example of the transport medic fiddling with a pump panel over an engineer's shoulder for about 24 hours and ultimatley reached the conclusion that the parallel doesn't work. This would be more like a paramedic in a third service agency who also happened to be a firefighter arriving at the scene of a structure fire on an ambulance and making a rescue prior to the arrival of the first-due engine. 

If that happened I would hope that no one from fire department wouldn't say, "You know, I thank the Good Lord for this rescue but I honestly wish the transport medic would leave the firefighting to the real firefighters." Ummm…. you mean the ones who weren't there? Yeah, those ones. You're right, Mr. Dick. There's no "me" in team.

That means we can all be happy when a teammate scores a goal.

The Social Medic (David Konig) gets it. "Rules can be wrong. That’s a possibility few people take into consideration, but an important possibility we always have to look at. Especially when we are leaders looking at the actions of our crews, which is why it was refreshing to see the leadership of Prince George County recognize the efforts of their crews with commendations instead of condemnations."

What's important is that Christina Luckett is alive.

See also:

Firefighters honored for saving girl's life

Firefighters ignore the rules, save girl

5-year-old Md. girl thanks firefighters who saved her life

5-year-old thanks Md. firefighters for breaking rules

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Discussion for 90 year old male cc: chest pain

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I hope you all had happy holidays!

Here is the discussion for 90 year old male cc: chest pain.  You may wish to go back and review the case.

So, let's get into the case!  There are the usual questions we need to answer as we try to determine the rhythm.  Is the rhythm wide or narrow? Regular or irregular? Is there atrial activity?

It is also important to note that there were a couple confounding factors.  The data quality was not great, which is never helpful. The crew tried to get a better tracing, and this was the best they could get.  As a side note, refer back to this post where Tom Bouthillet outlines his approach to achieving a high level of data quality in his tracings. Sometimes, there is nothing we can do to improve the data quality on a particular patient.  But it is important to make excellent data quality a priority.

Another factor in this case was that a couple of leads, notably V2, looked unusual and narrow, and could throw off someone's interpretation.

So, back to our initial 12 lead:

It is a wide complex tachycardia, at a rate of about 150, which appears at first blush to be regular.  Our differentials include:

  • VT
  • Sinus tach with aberrancy
  • SVT with aberrancy

As far as the wide complexes go, there are no real signs of atrial activity, although as some pointed out, in lead V2, there appears to be something resembling an atrial wave preceding a narrow QRS.  Let's talk about that piece, because many of you put a lot of stock in V2 looking narrow.

We should remember that when considering whether the rhythm is narrow or wide, we look at the widest complex we can find and use that for our measurement, not the narrowest. Why? Because from time to time, part of the QRS in a particular lead may be isolectric, and make the QRS appear narrow when in fact it is not.  Consider the following:

If we draw a line connecting the beginning of the QRS complexes in these leads, we can see that what appears to be a narrow QRS and possible P wave in lead V2 is actually part of the wide QRS as measured against the other leads! If you use this method on lead III, you will also find that what appeared to some as an inverted P wave, is actually part of the QRS as well. This is precisely why we use the widest complex to determine QRS duration and not a narrow one.

What was also confounding was that the rhythm did not look regular, but regularly irregular. If you look closely at the 12 lead and the rhythm strip, you will see that there are two alternating cycle lengths, a short R-R followed by a longer R-R at 340 ms and 380 ms respectively.  Thanks to Christopher Watford for the following graphic illustration:

While the default for a regular WCT is to assume VT unless proven otherwise, I have to admit that this ECG left me feeling uncertain, because of the irregularity. We have to be extremely concerned about an irregularly irregular WCT, such as A-Fib with WPW, but this rhythm is not irregularly irregular so that is off the table.

Because this ECG seemed somewhat unusual to me, I took the liberty of asking Stephen Smith, M.D., of Dr. Smith's ECG Blog to take a look at it.  He also ran it by his associate, renowned ECG Master K. Wang, M.D. for analysis:

From Dr. Smith:

"I believe this to be VT.  Much VT does not have concordance, and aVR has a wide, monophasic initial R-wave".

Although as yet unvalidated, Dr. Smith prefers Sasaki's criteria for VT, and you can find a great post on his blog that deals with Sasaki's criteria here.  As to the alternating cycle lengths, he had this to say: 

"If there were some consistent variation in the QRS morphology, I would say that there is something else going on.  But there is no such consistent difference between QRSs after 340 ms vs 380 ms…So I would just have to say that it is VT with grouped beating, although I admit that is strange."

From Dr. K. Wang:

"I agree it is VT. As you know, if either of the initial or the last part of the QRS is isoelectric in a given lead, the QRS can be narrower than what it actually is in that lead (it can never be wider than what it actually is).  Judging from the other leads taken simultaneously, that is what happened.  Also look at lead III. There seems to be a negative P wave in front of each narrow QRS, but again, judging from other leads taken simultaneously, what appears to be a negative P wave is already within the wide QRS of other leads and it is part of the QRS, not a P wave. That is what i think."

My sincere thanks to these two ECG greats for their contributions to this case.  

One more caveat with regards to using criteria for VT which you have heard early and often on this site:  While it is ok to use the criteria to rule in VT, the failure of the criteria to rule in VT does not rule out VT!!!  VT can look like almost anything, so don't fall into the trap thinking that if it doesn't meet "criteria", or a certain morphology, it can't be VT.  It most certainly can.

Now that we have settled on VT, how do we treat this patient? Where will we transport him? Well, if you believe that the VT is the primary problem, and that the patient does not need PCI, it certainly seems reasonable to go to the closest facility ten minutes away rather than the PCI facility.  

As for the patient, he is alert and oriented, has a pressure of 130/90, but has substernal "chest pressure".  Is this patient stable? Do we treat with antiarrhythmics? Cardiovert? Or do nothing?

While you can say that under ACLS guidelines, the chest pressure makes this patient unstable, However, I do think there is a difference between "chest pressure" and "crushing chest pain."  From the presentation the patient was ambulatory, in "no obvious distress", apparently tolerating the VT.  I think it would be fair to say the patient is stable enough to not need immediate cardioversion in the field.

If we decide the patient does not need to be immediately cardioverted, antiarrhythmics become the other choice.  His pressure is good, and the risk of giving amiodarone or another antiarrhythmic is that we cause the very hypotension and instability that we are trying to avoid.  I think it is reasonable prepare for deterioration, but at the same time monitor closely and hold off on treatments that could be detrimental to the patient until ED arrival.

To me, this is another case that illustrates the difference between decisions we learn in class and decisions we have to make in real life.  Patients do not read our text books or attend ACLS.  They present in that grey-not-so-sure zone where their stability is delicately balanced against what we do and what we decide not to do.

In this case, the crew was unable to gain IV access. They applied the pads as a precautionary measure, and transported the patient to the ED without further incident. After arrival at the ED, IV access was secured.  The patient was treated with a trial of antiarrhythmics, then successfully cardioverted.

Thoughts and comments?

AHA changes acceptable time to primary PCI from 90 to 120 minutes for acute STEMI

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Thanks to Ivan Rokos, M.D. for pointing out an important change in the 2011 ACCF/AHA/SCAI Guidelines for Percutaneous Coronary Intervention.

Photo credit: Code STEMI Web Series at First Responders Network

For years now many have complained about the AHA's official recommendation that primary PCI for acute STEMI be accomplished within 90 minutes of first medical contact (which can be a Critical Access Hospital 1 or 2 hours away from a PCI hospital or a volunteer BLS EMS system in the rural setting).

There are two main reasons the 90-minute standard for rural patients is problematic.

You could argue that it's time to change the recommendation from 90-minutes to 60-minutes for walk-in patients at PCI hopsitals (which I agree with). But even so, for many patients the mortality benefit of primary PCI over fibrinolytic therapy persists well past 90-minutes.

It's also important to remember that many patients have contraindications to fibrinolytic therapy, meet high-risk criteria (pulmonary edema, hypotension, tachycardia) that make primary PCI necessary, and that up to 30% of patients who receive fibrinolytic therapy will have "failed fibrinolysis" (their symptoms and ST-elevation will not resolve after being given clot-busing drugs indicating that they have not been reperfused).

In other words, all hospitals need (in the words of Jodi Doering, R.N.) "a Plan A, a Plan B and a Plan C." This is far too important to leave to chance. There is mounting evidence that transfer PCI takes too long and that rural hospitals are not achieving door-in to door-out (DIDO) times of less than 30-minutes so there is plenty of room for improvement and my intent here is not to blame the guidelines for preventable delays.

Having said that it's simply not possible for some patients who would benefit from primary PCI to have their infarct-related artery opened up on the cath table within 90-minutes of first medical contact (which, let's face it, is not even being measured in the vast majority of STEMI "systems" — the word "systems" in scare quotes because if it's not measured it's not a system.)

Which brings me to the 2011 ACCF/AHA/SCAI Guidelines for Percutaneous Coronary Intervention (free full text).

5.2.2.2. Primary PCI of the Infarct Artery: Recommendations

  • Class I

    1. Primary PCI should be performed in patients within 12 hours of onset of STEMI. (Level of Evidence: A)

    2. Primary PCI should be performed in patients with STEMI presenting to a hospital with PCI capability within 90 minutes of first medical contact as a systems goal. (Level of Evidence: B)

    3. Primary PCI should be performed in patients with STEMI presenting to a hospital without PCI capability within 120 minutes of first medical contact as a systems goal. (Level of Evidence: B)

    4. Primary PCI should be performed in patients with STEMI who develop severe heart failure or cardiogenic shock and are suitable candidates for revascularization as soon as possible, irrespective of time delay. (Level of Evidence: B)

    5. Primary PCI should be performed as soon as possible in patients with STEMI and contraindications to fibrinolytic therapy with ischemic symptoms for less than 12 hours. (Level of Evidence: B)

  • Class IIa

    1. Primary PCI is reasonable in patients with STEMI if there is clinical and/or electrocardiographic evidence of ongoing ischemia between 12 and 24 hours after symptom onset. (Level of Evidence: B)

  • Class IIb

    1. Primary PCI might be considered in asymptomatic patients with STEMI and higher risk presenting between 12 and 24 hours after symptom onset. (Level of Evidence: C)

  • Class III: HARM

    1. PCI should not be performed in a noninfarct artery at the time of primary PCI in patients with STEMI without hemodynamic compromise. (Level of Evidence: B)

The following statement accompanies the change in guidelines:

"Several reports have shown excellent outcomes for patients with STEMI undergoing interhospital transfer where first medical contact–to-door balloon time modestly exceeded the systematic goal of <90 minutes. In these reports, the referring hospital and the receiving hospital established a transfer protocol that minimized transfer delays, and outcomes were similar to those of direct-admission patients. On the basis of these results, the PCI and STEMI guideline writing committees have modified the first medical contact–to-device time goal from 90 minutes to 120 minutes for interhospital transfer patients, while emphasizing that systems should continue to strive for times ≤90 minutes. Hospitals that cannot meet these criteria should use fibrinolytic therapy as their primary reperfusion strategy."

This is an important change that every state, Critical Access Hopsital and rural EMS system should make note of and take steps to act upon.

The lives of our rural STEMI patients may depend upon it! 

See also:

AHA Mission: Lifeline

Code STEMI Web Series at First Responders Network

The importance of data collection and sharing

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Cross-posted from the Follow the Crew blog at CodeSTEMI.tv.

We had a wonderful time in Dearborn. I was welcomed as a brother at Dearborn Fire Department and got to learn about an awesome fire-based EMS system which made me happy. In addition, we met some motivated and passionate caregivers at Oakwood Hospital.

They are doing some awesome things in Dearborn and it's clear they're doing a great job treating STEMI patients. However, there's one area that created some cognitive dissonance for me and it's data sharing (or lack thereof) between the hospital and the EMS system.

One of the first questions I asked when we arrived at Oakwood was whether or not they had a multi-disciplinary STEMI meeting. "Absolutely!" we were told. Every Wednesday morning and all the stakeholders were present from emergency medicine, nursing, cardiology and administration.

"What about EMS?" Blank stare.

Finally I was told, "We have an EMS liaison." Unfortunately, it soon became clear that it wasn't enough. The bottom line is that the EMS Chief does not have a seat at the adult table in this hospital. That doesn't mean it isn't a great hospital.

I dragged my feet before writing this blog post because I don't want to cause any offense or ruffle any feathers. However, we are the First Responders Network. We tell stories from the point of view of EMS. The bottom line is that everyone we met at Oakwood talked about their extraordinary door-to-balloon times (less than 60 minutes and even less than 40 minutes) but we still haven't seen it on paper in context.

The door-to-balloon times at Hilton Head Hospital hang on the wall of the emergency department (warts and all).

As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Another quote from Thom Dick comes to mind. "Your agency is not the best in the nation. It's not the best in the state, either. In fact, it's probably not very good at all, unless you can prove it." We're not doing a commercial for Oakwood Hospital we're telling the story of their system which includes EMS and their interaction with EMS.

Every EMS system has room for improvement and my own EMS system is far from perfect. We have our own politics and our own struggles. In some areas Dearborn Fire Department and Oakwood Hospital are better than we are. Having said that, when it comes to quality and process improvement I'm a bit of a skeptic, and justifiably so. I'll spare you the details but I still don't know the actual "call received" time in my own EMS system.

The bottom line is, you might be the best EMS system or the best hospital on Earth.

Don't tell me. Show me.

90 Year Old Male CC: Chest Discomfort

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Here's an interesting case submitted by a faithful reader who wishes to remain anonymous.  As usual, some details may have been changed to protect patient confidentiality.

You are called to the residence of a 90 year old male.  Prior to your arrival, he was met by a BLS crew, walking around his apartment in no obvious distress.  Upon questioning, he admits to some sub-sternal "chest discomfort" starting four hour prior to calling EMS.  As your partner starts to get vitals, you continue your history and learn that the discomfort started while "sitting in a cab on the way home".  The discomfort is non-radiating, and not reproducable.

Your partner obtained the following vitals:

  • BP:          130/90
  • Pulse:     100+, very weak
  • RR:          18 regular
  • Skin:          "unremarkable"
  • Lungs:     clear bilaterally
  • SpO2:      99% on high flow O2

The patient receives 162 mg of ASA (per regional protocol), and as you get additional history your partner starts to put the leads on:

  • Discomfort began while at rest in the cab
  • Nothing makes the discomfort better or worse
  • Pt can only describe an uncomfortable feeling in his chest
  • Discomfort does not travel anywhere
  • Pt rates it as 7/10
  • Discomfort began four hours prior to calling EMS

The only medication he admits to taking is Plavix. His history is significant for DVT (for which he says he takes the Plavix) and Previous MI with CABG (time unknown).

You acquire the following rhythm strip and 12 lead ECG and begin your transport:

 

While the "data quality prohibits interpretation message" is given, you attempt to get a better tracing but this is the best you can get.  In addition, you are unable to get IV access.

The nearest hospital is a community non-PCI center about 10 minutes away, and the closest PCI center is 20 minutes away.

 

WHAT ARE YOUR IMPRESSIONS ABOUT THIS PATIENT?

WHAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE ECG, AND WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENTIALS?

HOW WOULD YOU TREAT THIS PATIENT?

WHERE WOULD YOU TAKE THIS PATIENT?